From MSNBC, here's Nancy's account of how the meeting went:
She said it was with "great joy" that she and her husband, Paul, met with Benedict.
"In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the Church's leadership in fighting poverty, hunger and global warming, as well as the Holy Father's dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel," she said.
Of course, we know that Nancy is a liar, so it's not like we can really buy her version of things. Strangely enough, the Vatican discussion of the meeting implies a slightly different tone.
"His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural and moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death ..." a Vatican statement said.
It said such teaching "enjoins all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men of goodwill in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development."
Since this was an admittedly brief meeting (15 minutes, per the article), I wonder how she and Pope Benedict got the chance to squeeze in all that stuff about global warming, etc in such a small amount of time. I'll admit that it would have been all kinds of awesome if he had met her at the door with bell, book, and candle, but it's a good start. Considering the rumors that his next encyclical is going to be on social justice, I'm wondering if he's going to take the opportunity to call out the Pelosis of the world on their manifest sin.
Maybe she'll actually notice his next encyclical then since liberal Catholics are obsessed with social justice to the point where faith is secondary.
ReplyDeleteOr should I say faith made to bea private thing - subjugated to science and the state; aka Modernism.
ReplyDeleteAlso being the jerk that I am I would have to be seriously disappointed with the Pope for not taking action against her or making her bishop take serious measures. I mean she is in a powerful position and continues to spread scandal.
Let's drop this nice guy stuff that has penetrated Rome since good old Vatican II.
I'm not sure who gains what if we/the pope/the church call Pelosi on the carpet for her remarks. I don't think she's "spreading scandel" she's "sounding stupid."
ReplyDeleteI think Pelosi might be the one who gains if being called on the carpet causes her to give some thought to the condition of her soul. Granted, I'm not sure if it would really help with anything else.
ReplyDeleteAs to scandal, I think anytime a prominent person who claims to be Catholic publicly snubs the Church's teachings and proclaims a false version of those teachings as authoritative, she's pushing the scandal envelope. You are absolutely right about her sounding stupid, though.
"I'm not sure who gains what if we/the pope/the church call Pelosi on the carpet for her remarks. I don't think she's 'spreading scandel' she's 'sounding stupid.'"
ReplyDeleteShe’s spreads scandal by being a Catholic in a position of power and supporting things that go against natural law and Church teaching.
Someone needs to do something. Not have “talks” and other useless things. She has already been talked to, it didn't work. Why do it again?
Unless of course the Pope gave her a stern warning and never released that information to the public.
So we'll wait and see if she says stupid things again or even further let's give her enough time and see if she changes her beliefs and repents due to the talk with the Holy Father.
If not then I would expect serious consequences against her from her bishop. But since we're in the nice-guy post Vatican II era that probably won't happen.
While I realize Pelosi's a catholic personally I don't take anything she says as being from a catholic -- it's said as a politician -- a California one at that. As for the "nice-guy post Vatican II era" that seems to apply to pedophiles within the clergy as well.
ReplyDeleteShe is opposing natural law. No one escapes culpability for that.
ReplyDeleteBeing a Catholic amplifies that though since the Church can make natural law explicit and explicitly binding.
Hence she is scandalizing Catholics by being in a position of power and not using that power to help stop the murder of innocent people.
"As for the 'nice-guy post Vatican II era' that seems to apply to pedophiles within the clergy as well."
Not sure what this means but if you mean weak bishops and priests in the pedophile cases then I agree.
IMO, I'm also not a fan of recent popes not doing enough to bishops around the world who have rampant liturgical abuse and heresy in their diocese.